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problem, going beyond what happened seven years ago. >> the roles have changed tremendously. egypt is run by the muslim brotherhood. although the prime minister stepped in, he stepped in calling israel the aggressor. turkey has turned in another direction against israel. >> it called israel terrorist state. >> there are new challenges and i do not know which way this is going to go. >> if you look at this over the long span of the last 20 to 25 years, everything that charles says in some respects has merit. but you can onto this one step at a time -- cannot do this one step at a time. at first, israel did not want to negotiate with the plo and viewed them as the worst of the worst. now they are the better part of the equation. now they will not negotiate with hamas. hamas is being pressured from more radical elements. each time you refuse to make a deal with people you detest, there is somebody worse. the arab community is a different community, and the pressure is coming much more ardently in that direction. >> the relationship between the u.s. and israel will not change. what has change
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